>> well no, but what they can do, be you not only have president obama but pope francis talk about is a living wage. set the minimum wage at a level that people can survive on. you have states already emulating what a lot of these workers are talking about. seattle recently raised their minimum wage to $15 an hour. california $10 an hour. i think people are understanding because frankly those strains end up getting pushed to the states. states have to subsidize those same people. >> very quickly, wouldn't a business get a lot out of the henry ford model? unilaterally saying we're going to pay more than market price for our employees and charge you more and wouldn't that be like a huge pr for a business? >> if a business could do that, if a business could do that they would have done it already. they wouldn't need the federal government telling them to do that. it's instrubtive the examples we're hearing, fast food strikes, airport in seatle, these are union-backed campaigns to try to create a discussion, try to demonize large companies but at the end of the day all they're doing is re